Injection PAIN

[Oats]

I have been using the BP Deca @ 1cc and Test-E @ 2cc twice a week for 10 weeks now. Around week 6 I started feeling pain at the injection site. Up to that point I had been seeing great results an had pain free injections. Now every time I shoot I know it will be about 7 days of stiffness and PIAN. I have been rotating sites shoulders, quads, glutes and even got lats in the mix. I’m about a week and a half out from a show now and am concerned about hitting my last 2 shots of the BP Test-E. I can’t afford to have the swelling and stiffness at this point.

I’m also using the BP Prop 1/2cc mixed with stealth EQ that seems to be OK, only slight pain.

Any suggestions or similar experiences?

Oats

[fr8lnr01]

You need to figure out which product is irritating you. After six weeks you begin to feel pain. You had to have messed up somewhere.

[Oats]

I think it’s the Test-e, when I mix 1cc of the test-e with the prop and eq the pain hits if I just do Prop and eq its only that slight tightness for a day or 2. Test-e and Deca always pain. I don't know what I could have messed up? At about 6 weeks the pain gradually got worse with each injection so it wasn't all of the sudden. I'm rotating injection sites and split shoots to no more that 2cc. In the past I would do up to 3cc without a problem. I'm starting to wonder if its an allergic reaction

[lastblondbb]

The better question is why are you using deca and test e for contest prep cycle??? Anyways, its weird that the stuff started hurting all of a sudden.

[IndiansCatcher19]

Injection technique may have been off just a little

[Cracker]

If you havent been totally sanatary when using your stuff you could have contaminated it causing a small infection everytime you inject now. Might not be it but it is a hypothesis.

[bulldawg305]

If you havent been totally sanatary when using your stuff you could have contaminated it causing a small infection everytime you inject now. Might not be it but it is a hypothesis.

that's very possible. Otherwise it is strange for it to start being sore this far into it.

[sweatandscience]

I agree. From what you've said that most likely you've contaminated one or both of your vials, or perhaps you have reused a needle or syringe. It only takes one missed step to leave behind bacteria that may grow worse and cause more problems with every inject.

I used to have a similar problem in later weeks and now I wipe with alcohol pads and change pins at EVERY STEP.

No problems since. I'm in week seven of an identical BP cycle and am not experiencing any abnormal injection pain.

Sorry to hear of your problem. I hope you are able to find a way to make it better and enjoy the benefits of the remainder of your cycle.

[Oats]

I agree. From what you've said that most likely you've contaminated one or both of your vials, or perhaps you have reused a needle or syringe. It only takes one missed step to leave behind bacteria that may grow worse and cause more problems with every inject.

I used to have a similar problem in later weeks and now I wipe with alcohol pads and change pins at EVERY STEP.

No problems since. I'm in week seven of an identical BP cycle and am not experiencing any abnormal injection pain.

Sorry to hear of your problem. I hope you are able to find a way to make it better and enjoy the benefits of the remainder of your cycle.



This was my first thought that I contaminated something but I am very careful when I prepare. Wash my hands, clean the surface area where I'm working and always use alcohol wipes once when I remove the vials from their container then again before stickin a needle in. I do use 1 needle to with draw and a 2nd to inject. Same procedure for years, this is not to say I’m beyond screwing something up especially now, calories are low so I’m a little edgy, cranky and my concentration is not quite there.

I'm now onto my 3rd vial of Test and 2nd of Deca, just popped the top on a new vial of test with the same reaction. One thing I have noticed is that glute shoots have little pain? This is driving me crazy! Anyway just got 1 more shot of Deca/Test and 1 fresh glute. Then its just prop/eq a couple times.

And for the cheep tops on the side with the arrow I pop the top enough to break the seal then wiggle it up and down until the opposite side breaks, its a clean break right at the center.

[Benner]

Sometimes in the beginning of a cycle, we are more careful, then we get used to injecting and maybe get a little careless. Easy to do. Are you injecting slowly with a very steady hand. Maybe you are 'rushing' a little more than early in your cycle? Best of luck in your contest bro.:)

[Tyrone]

On a scale of 1-10 what's the pain level? 1 being a scratch/bump and 10 being EXTREME pain.

[Oats]

On a scale of 1-10 what's the pain level? 1 being a scratch/bump and 10 being EXTREME pain.


Swelling and restriction of movement. One week I could not train legs, I tried but was barely able to ride the bike for 5 minutes, even had the seat up high to limit the range of motion, this was the worst. It's far worse that the typical knot you get with some gear. Anyway to me at a 10 I'm past out and or in the hospital so I'd say 8.

At this point I’m questioning everything I’m doing. I can’t believe 4 weeks in a row I could fuck up like this. Anyway last 2 shoots were pain free, well maybe a 1 for the Glute but 0 for the shoulder (shoulder was just prop and EQ).

[yafu]

dump it, get new gear or start your pct

[Oats]

Sometimes in the beginning of a cycle, we are more careful, then we get used to injecting and maybe get a little careless. Easy to do. Are you injecting slowly with a very steady hand. Maybe you are 'rushing' a little more than early in your cycle? Best of luck in your contest bro.:)

With my calories low + Clen + ECA I would have to say NO, my hand aint even close to being steady!

YA, I could be rushin, the day just isn’t long enough. cardio at 445am then to work, then pick up my son get him dinner, workout-pose-tan, bathe and put my son to bed, cook up and pack food for the next day, then I'm ready to prep any injections. Do I really need sleep to recover and grow or is that just a myth?

I think I'll just quit work THAT will give me more time! Oh ya I need $$ to pay for all this shit, son of a motherless goat.

[IndiansCatcher19]

With my calories low + Clen + ECA I would have to say NO, my hand aint even close to being steady!

YA, I could be rushin, the day just isn’t long enough. cardio at 445am then to work, then pick up my son get him dinner, workout-pose-tan, bathe and put my son to bed, cook up and pack food for the next day, then I'm ready to prep any injections. Do I really need sleep to recover and grow or is that just a myth?

I think I'll just quit work THAT will give me more time! Oh ya I need $$ to pay for all this shit, son of a motherless goat.

As learned in my Psychology class this past week.
YES YOU NEED TO FUCKING SLEEP.
The worst time to be cutting sleep is when you are on! You don't get stronger when you lift, you get stronger when those little tiny fibers you blasted apart in your previous workout RECOVER. Yes you are on Clen and ECA so you think you have energy, but this is only supplemental energy. Do Not Set yourself up for a crash!!!!!
Your muscles are not the only thing that needs to recover, your Nervous system needs to recover. If i am correct and some one correct me if im wrong, Your Nervous system has to recover BEFORE your muscles will start to recover. Sleep is the most important factor in ANY cycle. It does not matter how you train or how clean your diet is, if you don't sleep....You body isn't going to function at 100%.

BUT...
You are a father and have a life, your whole life isn't dedicated to a sculpted body. Get the sleep that you can, and try a sleep aid to knock you out if you have to so at least you know the sleep you are getting is quality.

Everybody does all these calculations of how much you should eat, and how much protein you should be taken and crabs and blah blah blah. What good is all the shit your putting in your body if your body cant even function properly due to sleep deprivation.

[bulldawg305]

Sometimes in the beginning of a cycle, we are more careful, then we get used to injecting and maybe get a little careless. Easy to do. Are you injecting slowly with a very steady hand. Maybe you are 'rushing' a little more than early in your cycle? Best of luck in your contest bro.:)

very good point. i found myself doing this as well. especially if you're running late in the morning. very bad habit to fall into though

[Oats]

As learned in my Psychology class this past week.
YES YOU NEED TO FUCKING SLEEP.
The worst time to be cutting sleep is when you are on! You don't get stronger when you lift, you get stronger when those little tiny fibers you blasted apart in your previous workout RECOVER. Yes you are on Clen and ECA so you think you have energy, but this is only supplemental energy. Do Not Set yourself up for a crash!!!!!
Your muscles are not the only thing that needs to recover, your Nervous system needs to recover. If i am correct and some one correct me if im wrong, Your Nervous system has to recover BEFORE your muscles will start to recover. Sleep is the most important factor in ANY cycle. It does not matter how you train or how clean your diet is, if you don't sleep....You body isn't going to function at 100%.

BUT...
You are a father and have a life, your whole life isn't dedicated to a sculpted body. Get the sleep that you can, and try a sleep aid to knock you out if you have to so at least you know the sleep you are getting is quality.

Everybody does all these calculations of how much you should eat, and how much protein you should be taken and crabs and blah blah blah. What good is all the shit your putting in your body if your body cant even function properly due to sleep deprivation.

Dude, I was being sarcastic I agree 100%. One of the most over looked things is rest, as they say you don’t grow in the gym.

The Clen and ECA don’t interfere with my sleep got the timing worked out, but they do make me shaky! I am getting about 7 hours a night and nap whenever I can, like on the drive to the office and on the way home. I just close 1 eye at a time and if both close at the same time the rumple strips on the side of the road usually wake me up.

[musclemd]

Swelling and restriction of movement. One week I could not train legs, I tried but was barely able to ride the bike for 5 minutes, even had the seat up high to limit the range of motion, this was the worst. It's far worse that the typical knot you get with some gear. Anyway to me at a 10 I'm past out and or in the hospital so I'd say 8.

At this point I’m questioning everything I’m doing. I can’t believe 4 weeks in a row I could fuck up like this. Anyway last 2 shoots were pain free, well maybe a 1 for the Glute but 0 for the shoulder (shoulder was just prop and EQ).

Swelling and restricted movement?? If there is any redness or warmth to the swelling go to an MD for anti-biotics. I had a case of cellulitis- was using stealth test-e. Do not mess around trying to end a cycle if this is happening. Bacterial infections can happen even with the best of precautions. If you do not know the difference between reaction and infection ere on the side of caution and see an MD.
Best of luck bro.

[IndiansCatcher19]

Dude, I was being sarcastic I agree 100%. One of the most over looked things is rest, as they say you don’t grow in the gym.

The Clen and ECA don’t interfere with my sleep got the timing worked out, but they do make me shaky! I am getting about 7 hours a night and nap whenever I can, like on the drive to the office and on the way home. I just close 1 eye at a time and if both close at the same time the rumple strips on the side of the road usually wake me up.

LOL...I was hoping you weren't serious. I LOVE sleep, during summer breaks in high school, i swear i grew SOO much, because i would sleep like 10-12 hours a day. That was the glory days.!

[Sohypnotick]

i have heard a few other people complain about test e around week 5

[lola26]

a buddy of mine is using bp sust and he has mild pain.

[jchh]

Digging up an old thread but I was running BP Sust aswell with mild pain only for the first few injections. I was pain free from week 3-8 around week 8 I started getting the same thing, pain, redness,limited ROM. Been real careful but thought I may have contaminated the vail so I nixed it and cracked a new one open. Same deal, I think my body may just be fed up at this point? Gains were great but I called the cycle at week 10.

[lunny]

Digging up an old thread but I was running BP Sust aswell with mild pain only for the first few injections. I was pain free from week 3-8 around week 8 I started getting the same thing, pain, redness,limited ROM. Been real careful but thought I may have contaminated the vail so I nixed it and cracked a new one open. Same deal, I think my body may just be fed up at this point? Gains were great but I called the cycle at week 10.

Wow my body must be numb cause with the stealth i have never had an issue!!! I have used some EG stuff once and got 3 infections off the shit!!!