Var and vinnie

[Blimp105]

6'0 190 27 years old, good diet

Oral only cycle (var and winnie)

Ive been reading the threads and was wondering if I needed some test to keep me from having to much free natty test so it wouldnt affect my libido.

If so how much? Will the test affect my cutting cycle?

[DEADBOLT]

That is a perfect example of how not to use aas. first never stack two orals, always use test unless you are very experienced and dont like the sides. If your worried about bloat or gyno from the test then take an A.I [letro,arimidex ect] how long are you planning on cyclin,
whats you experience with steroids, how old are you, how big are you, how long have you been traing....................on and on and on... we need more info so we can help put together a cycle for you with winnie or var in it.

[DEADBOLT]

sorry I missed your stats. you should be bulking up at six foot and only 190!

[Blimp105]

8+ years training, cyclin 14 weeks with the oral only cycle (1st Cycle) from the shop and it is a cycle that is already set up so I hope they are suggesting the right things for me to take. As far a 6'0 190 I read up on the aas's that are in that cycle and it is what I am looking for in a more cut, hard look. I'm not trying to add alot of mass. The more I read though the more I see people are saying that orals arent very good. I'm just looking for some suggestions?

[Blimp105]

10 Weeks Anavar 50mg Every Day
6 Weeks Winstrol 50mg Every Day
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Week 11: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
Week 12: 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
Week 13: 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day

Deadbolt?

[BuffMedic]

Well I'm a firm believer in having test as the rock for a cycle but after reading Lee Priests column this month in muscle mag and he talks about not being able to use test because it makes him sick I am a little curious on the outcome of stacks that don't consist of test.

[No-Go]

are you german?

[bod1ggity]

I have done plenty of test free cycles... but I dont recommend oral only's.... for the $$$ its just not worth it IMHO...

for newbs I think every cycle should have test as the base... and at 6'0 190lbs, I would think you needed to bulk up before you cut... whats your bf% roughly?

[LeanMass17]

Yo Blimp, trust me bro you will like the results from a cycle of Test E. way more than Winny and Var. A 10-12 week cycle of Test can be managed so that all you will get is lean gains and they will be far superior and more permanent than anything oral!

[automatic]

6'0 190 27 years old, good diet

Oral only cycle (var and winnie)

Ive been reading the threads and was wondering if I needed some test to keep me from having to much free natty test so it wouldnt affect my libido.

If so how much? Will the test affect my cutting cycle?

imo,i wouldnt run a cycle without test.if this is your first cycle and if you dont want to stick yourself eod ,sus is real good at 250mgs per week as a base and also test will decrease body fat if diet is in check.also run letro with the test(any test)to reduce bloat and sides,and yes if you use letro with the test you will be cut like a mother.run letro 1/4 tab eod and start letro 2 weeks before cycle starts if your gyno prone.good luck,you should get good results that will stay after cycle ends.