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irish2003
09-22-2007, 03:44 PM
NM: What is your current stack?

PB: For the first ten days, I take 1000 mg of Sustanon a day. Days 11 to 20, I take 800 mg of Deca, 400 mg of Primobolan, and 600 mg of test propionate a day. Days 21 to 30, I do 400 mg of propionate, 200 mg of Winstrol, and four of my Triple X capsules, which are a homemade combination of Dinatropinol, T3, and oral insulin. I also take a 30-IU shot of insulin every time I eat a meal.

NM: Gee, is that all?

PB: That's what it takes. I want to make the most massive gains possible. I've gained 94 pounds in the last five months. Oh, I almost forgot?I also use growth hormone four days at a time, which is the way a child produces it, in four-day spurts. It doesn't work as well if you stay on it all the time. Consistent use suppresses your natural GH secretion, plus you build up a tolerance to its effects. I use 12 IUs of GH each day I use it.

NM: No cycling down the dosages of the steroid stack?

PB: No, I just stop. I don't feel that there's much benefit from cycling down. By distancing the shots and the half-life of the drugs, a "cycle down" occurs naturally. I want to clean out as soon as possible. When people stick in low levels of gear in order to "bridge," they're not clearing anything.

NM: Any anti-estrogens?

PB: Aminoglutathiamide is terrific when used the last ten days before a show. It makes you freaky hard. It's a pretty risky drug, however. The ACTH [Adrenal Corticol Tropic Hormone] kickback can create a bigger problem than what you started with. It's a gamble. I use Tamoxifen, 40 mg a day before bed, if I start to get too puffy.

NM: I noticed that you don't use any orals.

PB: For what I use, it wouldn't be healthy. I would hate to take 2,000 mg of 2-mg Anavar tablets!

russb
09-22-2007, 04:54 PM
"I take 800 mg of Deca, 400 mg of Primobolan, and 600 mg of test propionate a day"


HOLY CRAP. thats like 5.6g of deca a week :o and 4.2g of test....geeeeez

DEADBOLT
09-22-2007, 06:01 PM
now this is one impatient individual.

lola26
09-22-2007, 10:27 PM
that cycle makes no sense to me..... am i the only one?

Alin
09-22-2007, 11:40 PM
ive tried those cycle even on other athletes and not tyhat great of luck.

Curtis
09-23-2007, 10:48 AM
"I want to make the most massive gains possible. I've gained 94 pounds in the last five months." WOW man thats a fuckin lot of wieght. Thats gotta be hard on the system!

drob29
09-23-2007, 12:22 PM
that cycle makes no sense to me..... am i the only one?

its not just the cycle its the quantities thats INSANE. I mean holy shit...

"For the first ten days, I take 1000 mg of Sustanon a day. Days 11 to 20, I take 800 mg of Deca, 400 mg of Primobolan, and 600 mg of test propionate a day. Days 21 to 30, I do 400 mg of propionate, 200 mg of Winstrol, and four of my Triple X capsules, which are a homemade combination of Dinatropinol, T3, and oral insulin"

I found this on how he died, if your interested:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/death-paul-borreson-guru-46144.html

ranger235
09-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Aminoglutathiamide is terrific when used the last ten days before a show. It makes you freaky hard. It's a pretty risky drug, however. The ACTH [Adrenal Corticol Tropic Hormone] kickback can create a bigger problem than what you started with. It's a gamble.

I used Cytadren (aminoglutethimide) as the AI in the first couple cycles I did about 10 years ago. I'm a huge Duchaine fan to this day and this was another one of his discoveries. It was widely available and was heralded as a wonder drug because it not only almost totally inhibited aromatase but also inhibited desmolase, leading to a reduction in cortisol (the catabolic hormone). It's indicated for the treatment of breast cancer as well as Cushing's Syndrome (excessive production of cortisol).

I would strongly suggest avoiding this stuff however - the cortisol suppression sounds good but it actually really sucked. My joints ached like crazy and I slept constantly due the ACTH effect. It makes ya look hard as nails but its also very liver toxic and plays havoc with the thyroid.

Machola
09-24-2007, 01:13 AM
god damn! im surprised that's possible without causing liver failure. i figured that much gear would kill you...and bump the guys saying it makes no sense, but i guess with doses that large it doesn't have to

Krom
09-24-2007, 02:34 AM
What, was he injecting himself with a 20cc syringe? How is it possible to inject that much stuff in that amount of time and lift weights? I'm not sure I believe this.

danrcf
09-24-2007, 04:21 AM
i be dead in an month time:eek: