what size pin?

[maniron_1]

What size pin for andropen (super-sustenon) and what size pin for deca? I was about to buy some 3 cc 22ga 1.5s. I was thinking (if I can remember) that it's a 21and1/2 ga. 1.5... and will the 22s work?

[JILANI]

You'll be fine with the 22g 1.5 it's an adequate size for the oils, for deca,sust,test, just make sure to massage the area after injecting and may I suggest that you inject your glutes, it being a larger muscle and all.

[Alin]

What size pin for andropen (super-sustenon) and what size pin for deca? I was about to buy some 3 cc 22ga 1.5s. I was thinking (if I can remember) that it's a 21and1/2 ga. 1.5... and will the 22s work?


22-23g 1 1/2"

[maniron_1]

So, you're saying I could get by with a 23 ga? Do you warm up the syringe in a warm or hot glass of water first? I think I read that somewhere. I can get 21 1/2, 22, or 23 ga. Which one would be best all around? Oh yeah, and what size for tren?

[maniron_1]

And by the way, thanks Jilani and all of ya'll out there in Alin land for all the help. I don't mean to bother anybody, I just wanna make sure about all the ins and outs (details) that come with bodybuilding

[JILANI]

So, you're saying I could get by with a 23 ga? Do you warm up the syringe in a warm or hot glass of water first? I think I read that somewhere. I can get 21 1/2, 22, or 23 ga. Which one would be best all around? Oh yeah, and what size for tren?

You can use a 23g I personally stick with a 22g because the higher the gauge the smaller the needle hole will be. You can warm the syringe in water if you want, some say it is to cut down on the pain...I dont do it, what I do is when I push the air out of the syringe I let some of the oil run down the needle to lubricate it, the needle will go in regardless it's just something I do.
Still, you should post the cycle you are intending to do so that we can further help you on your way, also research the gear you want to see if its the one for you.

[jstforme]

about the warming of the syringe with water, i dont see how that would help reduce the pain. ive heard that too before but it totally doesnt make sense. isnt the BA content a major factor in pain? if so, i dont see how warming it up would help sooth it. the only benefit that ive gotten from warming up is its changes the viscosity of the oil making it a lot easier to push through the pin.

[Beetlejuice]

I use a 21 gauge pin 1.5 inches for everything. I don't think it hurts at all. With that size pin it really doesnt matter what it is. If your pin is to narrow then the force of the liquid exiting the needle will be greater, and that will lead to more soreness and pain overall. So a bigger gauge in that sense is better. I do almost all of mine in the glutes. Less problems there overall too.


about the warming of the syringe with water, i dont see how that would help reduce the pain. ive heard that too before but it totally doesnt make sense. isnt the BA content a major factor in pain? if so, i dont see how warming it up would help sooth it. the only benefit that ive gotten from warming up is its changes the viscosity of the oil making it a lot easier to push through the pin.

[jstforme]

I use a 21 gauge pin 1.5 inches for everything. I don't think it hurts at all. With that size pin it really doesnt matter what it is. If your pin is to narrow then the force of the liquid exiting the needle will be greater, and that will lead to more soreness and pain overall. So a bigger gauge in that sense is better. I do almost all of mine in the glutes. Less problems there overall too.

i agree beetlejuice, i stick with glutes for shots, i use 22 1.5, dont know if i want to do 21 lol. i warm up the syringe like i said to make the oil flow better, particularly when it gets down to the last bit in the syringe, i have a hard time squeezing that last little bit out.

[Beetlejuice]

Warming up is good. I think it is less shock to the system when it is close to body temperature.

i agree beetlejuice, i stick with glutes for shots, i use 22 1.5, dont know if i want to do 21 lol. i warm up the syringe like i said to make the oil flow better, particularly when it gets down to the last bit in the syringe, i have a hard time squeezing that last little bit out.

[Kaiser]

As a side note, if one of the substances you are using is an ampule, you can usually get away with one pinning by filling the pin with the bottled substance first, then fill with the ampule. Ampules are throw aways so you dont have to worry about corrupting the solution. Just don't do it the other way around or you could contaminate the bottle.

For a pinning bible go here:
http://www.howtodoinjections.com/

[sowrdiezel]

i use 23G x 1" for Glute shots and 25G x 5/8" for spot injections like into the bicep, etc.

[moondog]

I stick to the 22ga, because i have had some trouble with the push on 23. Test suspension seemed to get clogged in 23 and a big explosive push to get it unclogged, didnt feel good, if you have a good oil mix 23 is ok but inject time may be slower, 22ga you can tell the difference in needle size, but inject seems to go smooth. just my 2 cents

[Tyree33]

Maniron, don't ever think that the questions u ask bother any of us. That's what we're all here for, to learn from one another. My man Jilani's tip is right on. I always push a little bit of the oil through the pin, it definately helps the needle slide in a little easier. As far as where to stick, I primarily stick to my glutes and I've been in this game for 10+ yrs. The only reason I switch from time to time is to avoid the build-up of scar tissue in the area.

[gumba]

I know a guy who even uses slin pins for oil based stuff. hes 5'9" at 280 not all muscle, he powerlifts hes been doing it that way for 30 years he says. I have tried it, damm you have to be strong just to push the shit through.

[jstforme]

no offense to this "guy" but that really sounds p***y

[crytklmass]

i used 23g in the beginning, now im using 25g for test and deca. no problems

[aintnothingtoitbuttodoitC]

Hey, I just usually buy the cheapest needles and syringes at the time. Be it 22 gauge or 25 gauge. Same with the syringes. But 25 gauge and up seems to leave no holes on me. That is good if your injection site is visible like arms, delts, calves, etc.