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[Jade_7674]

I am about to start a 6 month cycle, and I need help on figuring out the right amount of Arimadex and Proviron that shoud be suffuciant to ward off Gyno..

Example: Should it be .5 Arimadex Eod or .25 and 25 Proviron EOD, or something along those lines !!

I will not be using Nolva. this time around.

I have been using 4 on and 4 off for the past 3 yrs and have had great success, but I am wanting to step it up; I am 6'1 225 lbs. and trying to get to the 240-245 range....

Here is a sample of the cycle.

1-8 wks Andropen 275 & Deca 200 EOD

9-16 wks Test Cyp. 200 & Equipose 100 EOD

17-24 wks Test Enth. 200 & Tren A. 75 EOD

25-26 wks HCG 2,000 EOD

27-28 wks Clomid 1-2 pills EOD

29-36 wks OFF


If there is any one that is familiar with extended cycles, your help will be very much appreciated..

[Jade_7674]

I know there has to be someone out there that can help!

please reply !

[arnold jr]

I’ve begun running a very long cycle myself so here is my 2 cents.

1st off, what's the deal with the constant switching of test... especially with the test-e and cyp since they are virtually the same thing? I would pick 1 either test-e or cyp and stick with it wk 1-20. If a test mix is what you're after, I'm partial to sust250, but I've never used Andropen before so I'm not really familiar with it. No matter what test you go with I'd switch to prop the last 4wks and glide right in to PCT.

As for the deca and EQ, I'd stick with the deca since a large amount of size is what you're after, I think you'll be more pleased, so I don't see a need to switch from one to another.

I'd also run HCG throughout rather then at the end, and probably drop the tren and add in winny, maybe halo at the end.

If this was my cycle, based on the similar doses you have laid out, I would do something like this:

wk 1-20 sust 750mg wk
wk 5-16 deca 400mg wk
wk 11-16 winny 50mg ed
wk 18-24 halo 20-40 mg ed
wk 21-24 prop 750mg wk
wk 1-24 hcg 500iu e5d
wk 1-24 a-dex 1mg eod

wk 25-28 PCT

*The reason behind running winny with deca is it helps minimize joint discomfort that can come with winny use.

*The halo will help harden you up at the end, but don't expect a large size increase from this stuff, but rather dramatic strength and aggression increase.

*If you run this cycle make sure you get some sort of liver protectant, which is a good idea anyway, but the halo makes it even more so.

…probably going to take some heat for this post, seem to get a share of it on this board, but that’s cool, just the same, this is my opinion.

Arnold jr.

[Jade_7674]

I've chated with you PM before.. I like the way you give your opinion without acting like it's your way or no way... But for me the Halo and Winny are two very potent AA-17 compounds to be used at the sametime, that is why if you look at the sample given the first 4 wks are mass( Bloat and all), but then the EQ will start a mass (cut) for 8 wks, then when it is time for the cutting portion the tren will allow me to eat for size but have a great dried out crisp look.. There, I only use one powerful cutter(Tren)..



I need opinions on dosages for A-Dex and Proviron!!

Thanx, Cat

[arnold jr]

I've chated with you PM before.. I like the way you give your opinion without acting like it's your way or no way... But for me the Halo and Winny are two very potent AA-17 compounds to be used at the sametime, that is why if you look at the sample given the first 4 wks are mass( Bloat and all), but then the EQ will start a mass (cut) for 8 wks, then when it is time for the cutting portion the tren will allow me to eat for size but have a great dried out crisp look.. There, I only use one powerful cutter(Tren)..



I need opinions on dosages for A-Dex and Proviron!!

Thanx, Cat
It's your cycle so do what you want and what you think is best. But the way I laid it out the winny and halo are not being taken at the same time.

Arnold jr.

[Alin]

0.50mg Arimidex daily should be good place to start.

[Tyree33]

Dude the last time I did Halo, I went to a very scary place called "psychoville." It was about 6 or 7 yrs ago when this poor, unfortunate guy cut me off while I was driving so I layed on my brights and he slams on his brakes and opens his door like he wants some. I can only tell u, I fUCKIN SNAPPED! I was throwin blows by the time his door was opening. Then I grabbed him by his collar, head-butted the guy and busted his nose. Blood exploded all over the place (all of this before the guy had gotten completely out of his car).I messed the guy up real bad. I don't remember much after that but my buddy who was riding shotgun w/ me that night was a little freaked out to say the least. I was a walking timebomb, I was literally out of control. No more halo for the Tman here.

[soulmate]

[QUOTE=Jade_7674]I am about to start a 6 month cycle, and I need help on figuring out the right amount of Arimadex and Proviron that shoud be suffuciant to ward off Gyno..

Example: Should it be .5 Arimadex Eod or .25 and 25 Proviron EOD, or something along those lines !!

I will not be using Nolva. this time around.

I have been using 4 on and 4 off for the past 3 yrs and have had great success, but I am wanting to step it up; I am 6'1 225 lbs. and trying to get to the 240-245 range....

Here is a sample of the cycle.

1-8 wks Andropen 275 & Deca 200 EOD

9-16 wks Test Cyp. 200 & Equipose 100 EOD

17-24 wks Test Enth. 200 & Tren A. 75 EOD

25-26 wks HCG 2,000 EOD

27-28 wks Clomid 1-2 pills EOD

29-36 wks OFF


If there is any one that is familiar with extended cycles, your help will be very much appreciated..[/QUOTE=soulmate) The last year I ran 500mg sust a week for 6 months and bridged off at 250mg a month for 6 months and just started again doing 750mg of sust. I don't know why your not using nolv but it is the cheapest and easiest estrogen blocker. You can tell your primary care doctor that your sex life is in the pits and ask for the hormone tamoxifen citrate (nolvadex),if he's not creep he should prescribe two 10mg pills ad for 30 days with 5 refills. Write down the description of nolv from the school of medicine about the libido parts and show it to your doc. It's not listed as an abused drug and he shouldn't have any reason not to write the script for you if you tell him you used it before and it put your sex life in order. If you have insurance you don't have to worry about the cost of doing arimidex or proviron for over six months (that can be very expensive!) and then some for your pct. Anyway .25 0f Arimidex goes a long way if you start it no later then 3 weeks into you cycle. You don't need the proviron unless you don't have Ari. But using proviron or ari during the cycle is wasteful because you just need a receptor blocker (nolv). When your cycle is over no matter what you use I would run 60 days of proviron or ari to completely eliminate the estrogen in your system and finish it off with 1 week of 100mg of clomid and the next week of 50mg of clomid. I ran 10mg ad of nolv before with 750mg of sust a week and 40mg of Dbol ad for 8 weeks and 400mg of deca a week. All running together and the 10mg of nolv kept my estrogen receptors covered the whole 6 months. A good sign of how much estrogen you have in your body without a lab test every week (yea right who has a lab test on a weekly basis when there doing there cycles ! ) is having no pain or any discomfort in or on your nipples. If you even have alittle soreness at the nipple area you are up to your neck in estrogen ! You don't want that. I would start the ari or proviron no later then 3 weeks (thats about how long it takes the gear to change into estrogen) and for the gear to work properly you need that change from androgen to estrogen,thats why I prefer to use the nolv during the whole cycle because it dosn't eliminate the estrogen it just occupies the receptors so the estrogen is harmless,then at the end of the cycle you go for the coup de grace and eliminate all the estrogen in your body with the proviron or ari. You can also use masteron,not too many even know that masteron is a very good anti-estrogen. Using masteron or proviron also gives you that hardening of muscles and ripped appearance. What it comes right down to for most people is what they have and how much money can they spend on what they want, also what is available to them and how fast you can get it. The best thing to do is plan your cycle way ahead of time so you can have what you need when you need it. Hope I helped even alittle,goodluck,soulmate

[malibu350]

I would recommend 1mg of A-dex every other day and that it's.....A-dex blocks the conversion of test to estrogen...where as nolva just blocks the receptor sites. I've been on 30mg of d-bol and 250 of deca and 450mg of supertest since the begining of november...with this dosage of A-dex and no problems at all. No bloating like in previous cycles where I didn't take this high dosage....and no gyno nothing....hope this helps.

[Jade_7674]

I would recommend 1mg of A-dex every other day and that it's.....A-dex blocks the conversion of test to estrogen...where as nolva just blocks the receptor sites. I've been on 30mg of d-bol and 250 of deca and 450mg of supertest since the begining of november...with this dosage of A-dex and no problems at all. No bloating like in previous cycles where I didn't take this high dosage....and no gyno nothing....hope this helps.


Thanx cat.. that is were i think i was going to start it at.